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powerarmour wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:06 pm
Tabajara wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:11 pm I think the WHO reasoning is that it is more advantageous to the world to have countries who haven't received enough vaccines to get doses first. There are many countries without vaccination resistance that haven't vaccinated all that want to get vaccinated just because they don't have the vaccines to do so.
If I'm offered a third jab I'll take it, but i'd rather that was going to someone else in the world who hasn't had anything yet. :|
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powerarmour wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:06 pm
Tabajara wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:11 pm I think the WHO reasoning is that it is more advantageous to the world to have countries who haven't received enough vaccines to get doses first. There are many countries without vaccination resistance that haven't vaccinated all that want to get vaccinated just because they don't have the vaccines to do so.
If I'm offered a third jab I'll take it, but i'd rather that was going to someone else in the world who hasn't had anything yet. :|
Yep. If nothing else, vaccinating others slows the evolution of newer variants.
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thegrommit wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:08 pm Yep. If nothing else, vaccinating others slows the evolution of newer variants.
That's the most important aspect besides that the vaccine will give the recipient a good chance of surviving the pandemic. There should be a world drive to vaccinate everyone.
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Greetings!
impar wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:26 am
Tension over boosters rises as FDA regulators quit and publicly blast Biden’s plan
Top FDA regulators side with WHO on boosters, citing insufficient data.
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"Currently available evidence does not show the need for widespread use of booster vaccination," the pair, along with colleagues, conclude in the article. Even if there are benefits from boosters, the shots still carry risks, and any benefits "will not outweigh the benefits of providing initial protection to the unvaccinated," they write.
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09 ... ignations/
Problem is, unless the unvaccinated want, or are forced to take, the vaccine, the only vaccines given will be to the ones who already got the two doses.
Look at Israel vaccination, started very well and now is stranded in the 60s%.
Have to elaborate on this.
I agree that "boosters shots\third doses" should be put on hold untill the rest of the world had a chance to get the regular doses, with exception to the ones that are immunosuppressed (cancer, HIV, auto-immune, transplanted, etc).
My comment was related to the WHO view and to this news:
Israel Is Preparing for Possible Fourth Covid Vaccine Dose
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ccine-dose
Whats the point of a fourth dose in Israel, a country that started the vaccination process very well but has stagnated (are palestinians surviving there geting it? orthodox jews still avoiding it?)
Look at the chart, specifically at Israel:
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Talking about thirds or fourths doses makes sense when the country is still at 63% and pretty much stagnated?
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impar wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:05 am Look at the chart, specifically at Israel:
I assume those figures include 'all ages' though, maybe the percentage of under 16's are skewing the numbers? (as not all countries include under 16's in their 'official' vaccination data)

I'm aware the UK only reports 'over 16s' only (with 81.3% two doses):
The number of people of all ages who have received a COVID-19 vaccination, expressed as a percentage of the population aged 16 and over, by dose, up to the latest day on which vaccine data were reported. Daily figures include all vaccines that were given up to and including the date shown, and that were entered on the relevant system at the time of extract. The denominator is the 2020 mid-year population estimate for those aged 16 and over.
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https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09 ... exemption/
A hospital system in Arkansas is making it a bit more difficult for staff to receive a religious exemption from its COVID-19 vaccine mandate. The hospital is now requiring staff to also swear off extremely common medicines, such as Tylenol, Tums, and even Preparation H, to get the exemption.
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The intent of the form is twofold, Troup says. Firstly, the hospital wants to ensure that staff members are sincere in their stated beliefs, he said, and secondly, it wants to "educate staff who might have requested an exemption without understanding the full scope of how fetal cells are used in testing and development in common medicines."
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powerarmour wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:27 am I assume those figures include 'all ages' though, ...
Thats the only way the chart makes sense.
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impar wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:26 pm Thats the only way the chart makes sense.
Not all countries will vaccinate under 16's though, so that chart may never change for some countries.
I don't think Israel has started yet either:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-p ... -go-ahead/
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Greetings!

Israel started vaccinating 12-15 in June
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/isr ... -1.9878193

Problem is palestinians, orthodoxs and the, always present, vaccine-doubters:
Nonetheless, vaccine rates are not evenly distributed among the different population groups. Arab citizens and the Ultra-Orthodox population, who have suffered the most from the pandemic, are vaccinated at lower rates than the general public.

https://eu.boell.org/en/2021/06/14/acce ... ine-israel
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