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Apple Pulls ‘Fortnite’ From App Store Over Epic Games ‘Violating’ In-App Payments Rule:
That was fast: Apple, just hours after Epic Games announced a new direct-payment option for “Fortnite” to bypass the Apple App Store 30% “tax” on in-app purchases, has removed the game from its app store.

In a statement, Apple said, “Today, Epic Games took the unfortunate step of violating the App Store guidelines that are applied equally to every developer and designed to keep the store safe for our users. As a result their ‘Fortnite’ app has been removed from the store.”
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/a ... 234734404/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53773715

I can certainly see both sides of this story, but Apple's rules are the rules, if you don't want to follow them then prepare to be ejected.
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In a move seemingly calculated to be both an enticement to players and a middle finger aimed directly at Apple and Google, game developer Epic today began offering a discount for Fortnite players who use Epic's own direct payment system for in-game purchases.
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Update 3:04pm ET: Apple removed Fortnite from appearing on the iOS App Store by 2:50pm. As of 3pm, the game still remains available on Google's Play Store.
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powerarmour wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:21 pm Apple Pulls ‘Fortnite’ From App Store Over Epic Games ‘Violating’ In-App Payments Rule:
That was fast: Apple, just hours after Epic Games announced a new direct-payment option for “Fortnite” to bypass the Apple App Store 30% “tax” on in-app purchases, has removed the game from its app store.

In a statement, Apple said, “Today, Epic Games took the unfortunate step of violating the App Store guidelines that are applied equally to every developer and designed to keep the store safe for our users. As a result their ‘Fortnite’ app has been removed from the store.”
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/a ... 234734404/

I can certainly see both sides of this story, but Apple's rules are the rules, if you don't want to follow them then prepare to be ejected.
Maybe epic was betting Apple wouldn't do it after the congressional hearing on market domination. Apple kept the revenue stream for now, but created another clear evidence on how it handles the app store: it's not about security, it's about the apple tax on all app revenue.

P.S.: the epic video over this must be quoted:

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thegrommit wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:44 pm https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... ogle-fees/
In a move seemingly calculated to be both an enticement to players and a middle finger aimed directly at Apple and Google, game developer Epic today began offering a discount for Fortnite players who use Epic's own direct payment system for in-game purchases.
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Update 3:04pm ET: Apple removed Fortnite from appearing on the iOS App Store by 2:50pm. As of 3pm, the game still remains available on Google's Play Store.
The epic video over this must be quoted:

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This is also bit of a publicity stunt too, I mean, how long has that video been in the can. :P
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This is a power play by Epic that might end badly for Epic and Apple, but it's fun to watch.
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shadow wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:03 am This is a power play by Epic that might end badly for Epic and Apple, but it's fun to watch.
Google have pulled Fortnite from the Play store too.
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thegrommit wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:28 am
shadow wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:03 am This is a power play by Epic that might end badly for Epic and Apple, but it's fun to watch.
Google have pulled Fortnite from the Play store too.
Yep! I actually expected that.

I don't really get why Epic would run with this.
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It's a publicity stunt too, Fortnite (albeit still popular) is an older game now, and there are plenty of other Battle Royale competitors.

Apple and Google aren't going to sweat about losing it, and Epic are hoping more mobile folks will go back to side-loading it/installing it manually so they can make a quick buck before it inevitably wanes in popularity.

Longer term, it'll be about Epic getting it's own game store onto mobiles though, but Apple and Google will just point to their T&C's and wave them away, only an antitrust type ruling from authorities above will be able to change that.
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To Apple's credit, they built the whole ecosystem, and their users spend more in IAPs than Android's, and this has value.
Regarding the security argument, well, there is the issue of payment processing and refunds, and everything that comes attached (consumer protection laws? fraud? etc.). Debatable, but there is certainly value there too (not to mention legal obligations? Probably? :-k )

Don't like it? The door is over there :roll:
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