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Re: Playstation 5

Post by thegrommit » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:39 pm

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- Faster loading time, streaming, due to new SSD.
LMAO - not sticking the drive on a USB connection probably helps with that.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by powerarmour » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:19 pm

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LMAO - not sticking the drive on a USB connection probably helps with that.
There was probably a good reason for that though, it's an easier controller to manage in regards to firmware for piracy prevention etc.
Even though this new console will have mandatory installs and faster I/O, they'll still have to pay huge attention to any vulnerabilities.

Will be interesting to find out if the GPU is genuinely a new Navi revision, or whether the RT support is just a new GNM (Sony's API) driver.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by Tabajara » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:39 pm

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Will be interesting to find out if the GPU is genuinely a new Navi revision, or whether the RT support is just a new GNM (Sony's API) driver.
The wired piece has a quote saying there is hardware RT support. In a general way it looks the PS5 will be a lot better than the PS4 due to the sum of lots of small advances plus the faster data access developers will be able to count on, and improved haptic feedback.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by daglesj » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:15 pm

Trouble is why not wait a year for the PS5.5?
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by powerarmour » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:30 pm

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Trouble is why not wait a year for the PS5.5?
If you're going to wait for the 5.5, might as wait for the 6... :P
That's tech in a nutshell, if you're always waiting for the next revision, you'll be waiting forever.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by Tabajara » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:41 pm

powerarmour wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:30 pm
daglesj wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:15 pm
Trouble is why not wait a year for the PS5.5?
If you're going to wait for the 5.5, might as wait for the 6... :P
That's tech in a nutshell, if you're always waiting for the next revision, you'll be waiting forever.
IMHO the upgrade from 4 to 5 will be a lot more relevant than from 3 to 4 from a playability point of view. Immersion through instant loading, enhanced haptic feedback and possibly the first actually good console VR experience matter more to me than "moar shiny graphics".

5.5 will be like cherry on top of a good cake that is worth it by itself, and will probably take a couple of years to come. Will it offer 8K? That will be as unimportant as 4K when the PS4 was released.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by daglesj » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:32 pm

powerarmour wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:30 pm
daglesj wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:15 pm
Trouble is why not wait a year for the PS5.5?
If you're going to wait for the 5.5, might as wait for the 6... :P
That's tech in a nutshell, if you're always waiting for the next revision, you'll be waiting forever.
The point is it used to be you bought a console that was it. You were good to go for 7+ years. You may get a smaller cheaper version but not a faster more capable one 18 months later.

Now that they screwed the last gen and had to bring out the proper versions soon after what's to say this wont happen again?

I'm all for new consoles, I just say get it right the first time, not screw it up and push out the proper version soon after.

I would be very wary of jumping in on the next Xbox and PS. Whereas before with the PS3/360 and all before them...not a problem.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by powerarmour » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:24 pm

daglesj wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:32 pm
The point is it used to be you bought a console that was it. You were good to go for 7+ years. You may get a smaller cheaper version but not a faster more capable one 18 months later.

Now that they screwed the last gen and had to bring out the proper versions soon after what's to say this wont happen again?

I'm all for new consoles, I just say get it right the first time, not screw it up and push out the proper version soon after.

I would be very wary of jumping in on the next Xbox and PS. Whereas before with the PS3/360 and all before them...not a problem.
I understand your point, but when the PS4 launched it was perfectly adequate for 1080p and upscaled 4K gaming, and it still is!
The PS4 Pro merely added a bit more oomph and extra fidelity, but side by side against the base model you'd be hard pushed to tell the difference 10ft away from a screen.

I actually don't think there will be a mid-revision of either the PS5 or the new Xbox this time around. They'll be pushing processing towards the cloud soon anyway.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by shadow » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:45 pm

IMO x1/s were good for 720p, ps4 was good for 900p, ps4 pro was good for 1080p/1440p if they actually supported that, and x1x is good for 4k.

I expect ps5 will move quickly just cause the ps4p didn't quite cut it.
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Re: Playstation 5

Post by shadow » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:54 pm

powerarmour wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:24 pm
I understand your point, but when the PS4 launched it was perfectly adequate for 1080p and upscaled 4K gaming, and it still is!
The PS4 Pro merely added a bit more oomph and extra fidelity, but side by side against the base model you'd be hard pushed to tell the difference 10ft away from a screen.

I actually don't think there will be a mid-revision of either the PS5 or the new Xbox this time around. They'll be pushing processing towards the cloud soon anyway.
Even aside from whether you can tell the difference (I sure can) in ps4p enhanced games ps4 also tends to have some fairly serious framerate drops in heavier games.

Personally, had a ps4p for a while but didn't feel like paying for ps+ and xbl gold so sold it off after I played enough of the exclusives.
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