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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by powerarmour » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:50 pm

Possibly the worst kept 'surprise' in tech for a while that! :P
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by thegrommit » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:19 am

powerarmour wrote:
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Possibly the worst kept 'surprise' in tech for a while that! :P
Yeah, though I'll be interested to see how accurate the TDP is, or whether they've adopted the Intel approach.
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by thegrommit » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:25 pm

Microarchitecture details:

https://www.anandtech.com/print/14525/a ... -epyc-rome
...a good number of the recent array of side channel exploits do not affect AMD processors, primarily because of how AMD manages its TLB buffers that have always required additional security checks before most of this became an issue. Nonetheless, for the issues to which AMD is vulnerable, it has implemented a full hardware-based security platform for them.
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The change here comes for the Speculative Store Bypass, known as Spectre v4, which AMD now has additional hardware to work in conjunction with the OS or virtual memory managers such as hypervisors in order to control. AMD doesn’t expect any performance change from these updates. Newer issues such as Foreshadow and Zombieload do not affect AMD processors.
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by impar » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:43 pm

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thegrommit wrote:
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Microarchitecture details:
https://www.anandtech.com/print/14525/a ... -epyc-rome
With the May 10th update to Windows, some additional features have been put in place to get the most out of the upcoming Zen 2 microarchitecture and Ryzen 3000 silicon layouts.

The optimizations come on two fronts, both of which are reasonably easy to explain.

Thread Grouping

The first is thread allocation. When a processor has different ‘groups’ of CPU cores, there are different ways in which threads are allocated, all of which have pros and cons. The two extremes for thread allocation come down to thread grouping and thread expansion.
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Clock Ramping

For any of our users familiar with our Skylake microarchitecture deep dive, you may remember that Intel introduced a new feature called Speed Shift that enabled the processor to adjust between different P-states more freely, as well as ramping from idle to load very quickly – from 100 ms to 40ms in the first version in Skylake, then down to 15 ms with Kaby Lake. It did this by handing P-state control back from the OS to the processor, which reacted based on instruction throughput and request. With Zen 2, AMD is now enabling the same feature.
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by thegrommit » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:07 pm

One thing not mentioned by anandtech:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-r ... 39609.html
AMD is also bringing the auto-overclocking Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) feature from its Threadripper lineup down to the mainstream chips. This feature allows Ryzen processors to communicate with the platform to modulate performance based on what the motherboard's power delivery subsystem can do, which is the key enabler for Precision Boost Overdrive.
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by impar » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:54 am

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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core, 12 Thread CPU Tested on X470 Platform – Single-Core Performance On Par With The Core i9-9900K

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600-z ... ed-online/
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by powerarmour » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:27 am

impar wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:54 am
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core, 12 Thread CPU Tested on X470 Platform – Single-Core Performance On Par With The Core i9-9900K

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600-z ... ed-online/
Latency not so great however... :-k
https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/upl ... ests-8.jpg
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by Tabajara » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:53 am

powerarmour wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:27 am
impar wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:54 am
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core, 12 Thread CPU Tested on X470 Platform – Single-Core Performance On Par With The Core i9-9900K

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600-z ... ed-online/
Latency not so great however... :-k
https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/upl ... ests-8.jpg
Wouldn't the chipset influence this? Anyway, it's a wonder it got there, I never thought we would see another Athlon, not with the money Intel spends on research and on it's fabs.
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Re: What's AMD (Processors) up to? v2

Post by thegrommit » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:32 pm

It's odd that they compare different CPU's for each test - e.g. cinebench results only includes the i9-9900K and nothing else from Intel. They then throw in an i7-6700K for some gaming tests, but not others.
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